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In Early AA-Newcomers were given a Sponsor -did the Steps 1-8 BEFORE being Allowed to go to an AA meeting…..AND ……The Success Rate was 50-75%-Hmmmmmm
Hmmmm? I heard a big book thumper mention in a meeting that “sponsor” isn’t mentioned in the first 164 pages. Of course, he had to mention 164 and the fact he was “recovered.” How the heck does anyone know the success rate of an anonymous program? I love that 75% figure thrown around. If AA isn’t the same, it’s the fault of those old timers who didn’t properly carry the message. Guess they weren’t so sober after all.
Thank God for the Oldtimers like Chris Raymer when I got Sober in 1985 in Reno NV -They told me the Truth -Get a Sponsor -Do the 12 Steps ASAP AND Work with others …..OR Relapse and Die from Alcoholism …..
may be for the first time he shut up and listened to what was said
He scares me. I hear ego, not love and tolerance. So sad for the beautiful fellowship that saved my life 35 years ago.
Love and Tolerance doesn’t mean allowing Newcomers to Babble for Eternity …..who have No intention of Getting a Sponsor-Doing the Steps and Working with others
If you don’t like Chris R. You need to take a look at yourself why does he offend you?!
Take a look at some other comments. He’s not as important as he thinks, so no offense is taken personally. It’s the newcomer in the room who hears a guy like Chris and realizes he wants nothing he has, that’s who I worry about. Maybe Chris needs to take a look at himself. He can stop by hiding behind chicken shit one liners in the big book. Just glad these guys introduce themselves as recovered alcoholics, you know what to expect. When you start our trying to make yourself unique, you’re leading with the ego. If they are disturbed by others in the program, there’s something wrong with them, isn’t that how it goes?